Dr van der Lingen has written a long paper on global cooling and the impact that solar cycles have on the earth’s climate, with supporting material from recognized scientist.
The full paper is HERE:global_cooling
He concludes:
There are many scientific indications that we may be entering a period of global cooling. The most important indicator is the fact that the sun has become very quiet, not experienced for a hundred years.
The main question now is: how long will the present 17 year warming standstill continue? An associated question is: will global cooling become more obvious in the coming years? The final question then will have to be: provided these two questions will be answered in the positive, how long will the DAGW promoters, especially the IPCC, persevere in maintaining that their hypothesis is the correct one? Time will tell.
I want to finish with an appropriate comment attributed to the US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan: “You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.”
I agree. Time will reveal the truth. If the planet cools as CO2 increases it will eventually prove those promoting anthropogenic global warming wrong. The real question is how long will the DAGW crowd be able to sustain their CO2 modeling fraud?
The sun is very active for the last few days – nothing different is happening = sun not guilty.
Skeptics are creating a ”backdoor” exit for the warmist; as justification for why GLOBAL warming is not happening – Warmist will use it, to justify for what they were lying – in reality there is no such a thing as a global warming – only billions of dollars looted…
If the sun increases radiation – some electronic equipment may suffer, full stop
even if extra heat is created on the earth -> oxygen & nitrogen / troposphere expands instantly – releases extra heat and equalizes in a jiffy. SUN NOT GUILTY
Russ, That seems to be same theory on the IPPC panel that they do not factor in the sun’s activity. This is why the way they learned, they left something out called common sense. Example: If I have an inferred heater and I turned It on high the objects in the room get hot. If then I turned it down to low the objects in the room are still warm but not hot. The point I’m trying to make is, the sun is a big inferred heater so when the sun is not as active or as hot because solar wind does slow down when the sun is less active, (solar wind also is also part of the heat delivery), then objects on the ground cool. Anyone that has owned an inferred heater knows what I am explaining about. And it’s not only the ground that cools but also the water in the oceans. So far this cycle sunspot smooth values are just at 70 shown here > http://www.solen.info/solar/images/cycles23_24.png Anthony
Anthony, heat doesn’t come from the sun’s heat – heat is produced on the earth, by the sun’s ”radiation”
2] your example of the ”heater” gives only half truth: a] when the sun produces more heat on the earth -> air / oxygen &nitrogen / ”troposphere” expand INSTANTLY -> release extra heat and equalizes in a jiffy!
Which means: the earth has a ”self adjusting mechanism” – same as: when you turn the heater higher – INSTANTLY open the windows, so the heater needs to heat larger area, will not get warmer
the precursor of all evil is that: everybody ignores the oxygen & nitrogen effect; even though troposphere is made of 98.99999999999ppm of those two gases
horizontal winds cool the land and water / ”vertical” winds are cooling the planet = when gets warmer than normal, for ANY reason -> vertical winds increase in speed. Cheers!
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Stefan, What you just explained does make a lot of sense. However, there are thinner layers in the atmosphere. The atmosphere is not evenly all over the globe. Where there are thin layers more heat escapes faster then it can be replaced when there is lack of sunspot and flares and solar wind. It has to do with the earths magnetic field. When charge particles hit the atmosphere it has a warming effect on the atmosphere first and then on the ground. This winter is proof that this is happening when you have record breaking cold and the amount of ice on the great lakes since 1977 and also more ice in the south pole and north pole. I can remember just two years ago climate experts were saying, the reason why the south pole has more ice was because it was compensating for the north pole lack of normal ice levels. Now this year both poles have more ice on them than there has been in years. And now, no comment or reason from these climate experts as to why this happened. Bottom line, weaker sun = colder winters and more ice that is going to last longer and not melt as fast. As far as the sun’s radiation, that is only one part as to many parts that keep’s the earth somewhat of a livable temperature. If we were to lose the sun’s normal energy or if the atmosphere thinned out more, and it did about four years ago, we would experience a more colder world because we are too faraway from the sun. Anthony
I suggest three sources which should also be considered. The first is “The Chilling Stars” from Henrik Svensmark and Nigel Calder which offers a very plausible explanation of how the number of highest energy (EeV, 10^21) eV is regulated by the sun. The second is “The Great Global Warming Swindle” which offers an entertaining explanation of the above available on YouTube. The third very relevant source is the website of the Pierre Auget Cosmic Ray Observatory, “studying ultra-high energy cosmic rays, the most energetic and rarest of particles in the universe. When these particles strike the earth’s atmosphere, they produce extensive air showers made of billions of secondary particles. While much progress has been made in nearly a century of research in understanding cosmic rays with low to moderate energies, those with extremely high energies remain mysterious.” Colorado State University also works closely with the Pierre Auget Observatory.
Chilguy,
Thanks for the tip on the Pierre Auget Cosmic Ray Observatory. I will look it up and check our their work.
Anthony, troposphere / where O2&N2 are, is evenly distributed, otherwise would create vacuum
2] heat doesn’t ”escape” heat is getting carried up, by oxygen & nitrogen / the ”vertical winds” that hang-gliders use ( similar as hot air can lift half a ton in the hot air balloon} when air warms up -> expands and goes up to carry the heat – that is not recognized by both camps; because doesn’t suit the Warmist propaganda – ”Skeptics” are singing same song, different words than the warmist = they are both far away from the truth
3]heat has more problem in escaping ONLY when is cloudy, BUT, cloudy weather intercepts part of the sunlight high up, where cooling is much more efficient.therefore overall temp is same
4] sunspots / sun-flares have influence on electronics, BUT nothing to do with any warming on the earth – will be proven soon.
5] ”this winter has record braking cold” BUT that’s in US, simultaneously in Australia is warmer than normal = ”overall’ is the same. Warmist want you to think like the way you say: ”see locally -present it as globally” for self-confusion…
6] ”more ice” on the polar caps doesn’t mean colder – ice is identified as ”cold” in the rest of the planet, but not on the polar caps – ask the Eskimos, they make houses from ice to keep warm b] need zero centigrade for ice to be made – on the polar caps average temp is minus -35C. twice as cold than in your deep-freezer
B] ice on Arctic ocean is melted from below, by the salty water – needs replenishing every season. c] on Antarctic and Greenland ice is melted also from BELOW by the geothermal heat, needs replenishing, THEREFORE: ”the amount of ice on the polar caps ”entirely” depends ONLY on the amount of raw material for ice that goes there; which means: how much moisture / water vapor is taken to the polar caps from warmer places;= which means: both camps are wrong in believing that amount of ice spells coldness and that ”water vapor” is bad for the climate…
7] southern poll has nothing to do with the northern poll, no ”compensation” needed – if southern ocean and Indian have higher evaporation = more ice on antarctic b] if Atlantic and north pacific have higher evaporation = is made more ice on north poll / if Saharan dry heat destroys more from that evaporation in north Atlantic = arctic has less ice
8] atmosphere doesn’t ”thin up” – where you think that air goes for the atmosphere to thin up? it’s only another confusion concocted, nothing to do with the reality…
9] yes, if the atmosphere can thin up = would have gotten colder; because oxygen& nitrogen are perfect insulators and are keeping the unlimited coldness in the stratosphere on distance from the ground- otherwise would have being colder as on the moon, where is no O&N.but that will never happen. Cheers
Russ, Hot of the press on Science Daily titled (Sun’s energy influences 1,000 years of natural climate variability in North Atlantic.) The link is here> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140309150437.htm This is something you might find interesting. The article states that the sun effected the North Atlantic current. Some what like the day after tomorrow, but only a mild event and not as extreme as in the movie. There is a person by the name John Moore, also known as the Liberty Man, he is a former military personal and still has military connections today. He states on his website that the gulf stream has stop on June 10, 2012. The pieces to the puzzle are coming together as to how the earth cool’s. And it looks like the sun is the major player in this one. Anthony
Russ, Here is the link to John Moore’s website http://www.thelibertyman.com/ Anthony
2014 was the warmest year yet. Until 2015 came along and blew it out of the water. Now 2016 is warmer YET. All this has happened when there has been VERY LITTLE SUN SPOT ACTIVITY.
I think you need to go back to the drawing board. You may also start thinking that the thousands of climate scientists are right: CO2 is warming the planet…..just as was predicted.
Waming was due to an El Niño event in the Pacific, which is rapidly decining. The AMO is cooling and the average high tempts are declining at weather stations across the nation. 2016 will not be the warmest year. Much of the warming you sited is because of “adjustments” to the NOAA/NASA data. The Satellites data sets do not show that 2014 was the hostest year. Even the joggered data shows that actual temperatures are out side the model predicted warming. You need return the the real world. There is no correlation between CO2 and temperatures.
Assessments of ‘Warmest Year’, indeed many of the climate claims being made, are based purely on surface temperatures, which can be highly misleading. In order to fully understand climate behaviour it is necessary to understand the behaviour of the atmosphere ‘in depth’. Our ability to do so unfortunately has a very limited history. We can look at full depth charts since around 1985, anything before that is computer generated guesswork, useful but limited. If we look at those computer – plus real – charts from the 1880’s to today there are indications of a warming trend to around early 2000’s. From there, we see what seems to be the early indications of a cooling trend – which would align with the ‘solar slow-down’ concept that has been in evidence over the last solar cycle. The key factors are the deep atmosphere temperature and pressure gradients, which vary constantly with the seasons, but which, long term, show variable tendencies that can give a far closer assessment than purely surface related data. It is perfectly possible to slot selected data into any calculation in order to ‘prove’ the desired version of reality – as has been said, anyone is entitled to their own opinion, they are not entitled to their own data set. We are very much in a watch and wonder phase, humanity doesn’t really have the in depth science to fully understand – yet – exactly what is happening, but we are getting there!
”atmosphere guy” do you know ”what atmosphere is”?! nobody is monitoring 99,9999999999999999999999999999% of the atmosphere TODAY – but you rely on data from 1990’s… #2: you are ”selecting phony data for your proofs, at least Warmist are telling LIES for cash and power; why are YOU spreading lies for? ”real charts from 1880’s” WOW #3: ”you are getting there” but you’ll never reach the target, because you are walking in REVERSE. #5: ”solar slowdown” – did you see that ”the sun is SLOWING down” or another conman told you so, OR: do you belong to the experts who think that every day the sun increases, every night goes to sleep? #6: BOTTOM LINE IS: Warmist don’t have a single legit proof of ”global” warming; they won, thanks to people like you that REFUSE TO USE THEIR OWN BRAINS, but rely on other shonks… tragic for the honest public not involved in the debate…